Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Raa Raa the Noisy Lion episodes

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The result was delete. If an editor sees it appropriate to merge some of the content, the page may be undeleted and the content merged. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 05:17, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of Raa Raa the Noisy Lion episodes[edit]

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Wikipedia is not a TV guide. Fails NLIST. COPYVIO issues in episode descriptions (from TV guide). Significant OR. Previously drafted User talk:Pam Hueste#List of Raa Raa the Noisy Lion episodes moved to draftspace but restored without improvement. // Timothy :: talk 12:20, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Comics and animation, Lists, and United Kingdom. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:51, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: here's the copyvio report . At the very least, this needs reporting to the noticeboard, though the other issues make me tip towards delete. Pear 2.0 (say hi!) 13:48, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Clear case of Not TV guide. Shankargb (talk) 18:36, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep after excising and revdel'ing the copyvio descriptions. Shankargb and TimothyBlue need to go read WP:NOTTVGUIDE, and explain how An article on a broadcaster should not list upcoming events, current promotions, current schedules, format clocks, etc., although mention of major events, promotions or historically significant program lists and schedules may be acceptable. is relevant to this list. Hint: it's not. This is the sort of list that is kept routinely for notable television shows without individually notable episodes. Jclemens (talk) 21:12, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Even if this was not a factor, per NLIST, there are not independent reliable sources addressing the subject directly and indepth from Ind RS. TV Guide listing do not show notability. // Timothy :: talk 21:30, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I can't see how WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here, since that merely says that we shouldn't list upcoming and current events, while this is a list of historical episodes. The question is whether you consider Raa Raa notable enough to deserve an episode list. If he is, then splitting it off into an article separate from the main article on Raa Raa does make sense. Elemimele (talk) 22:30, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Yet another no-sourced episode list for a show designed to have limited plots on purpose and whose actual target audience wouldn't know how to access this list or care about Zebby's fear of zipwires day-to-day. Tired of these preschool show episode lists, and they just need to go already. Nate • (chatter) 22:38, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Every notable television show lists its episodes, and when that list is long enough it gets made into a spinout article. Sometimes people look at the name NOTTVGUIDE and don't actually read what it says. We need to update that guideline to avoid future confusion since this does come up repeatedly. Dream Focus 02:32, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment It has one source, which is literally just its TV Guide page, and the show hasn't even aired on cable/broadcast television in the United States. Not acceptable. Nate • (chatter) 15:25, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why would it need to be shown in the United States to be notable? Three seasons and 78 episodes shown in the United Kingdom. Dream Focus 19:11, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The article needs sources. One source, involving a listings site not native to the show's originating nation, is by far not acceptable. A list article, even one with the line Raa Raa and his friends launch Huffty's whooshy whooshers into the air and lose them in the jungle, requires sources just as much as any other article. And the TVG source just carries one generic logline, which makes it pretty much useless. Nate • (chatter) 19:56, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not every TV show has a list of episodes, Lists have to pass NLIST. // Timothy :: talk 15:50, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Really? Which television show notable enough to have a Wikipedia article, which has too many episodes to fit on its main page, does not have a spinout page for its episodes? Dream Focus 19:17, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, PhantomSteve/talk¦contribs\ 16:20, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Lacks sources supporting that WP:NLIST is met. MrsSnoozyTurtle 04:16, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge list to the parent series article... just without the summaries. Or just recover the list seen in this revision and delete the standalone list page. George Ho (talk) 05:09, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.